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Drizzle
Drizzle
#1   Posted 5 years ago
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Who is Gravemind? A Forerunner or Flood King? The reason why I mention the Flood is cuz Arbiter called him "parasite"...
newduke
newduke
#2   Posted 5 years ago
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In reply to Drizzle, #1:

Gravemind is flood. But his presence and age does kind of mess up what we thought we knew about the effectiveness of the Rings.
sigma419
sigma419
#3   Posted 5 years ago
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In reply to Drizzle, #1:

I was thinking that Gravemind is a flood-infected forerunner.
newduke
newduke
#4   Posted 5 years ago
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In reply to sigma419, #3:

Ooooh, good idea, even though the Forerunners are supposed to have destroyed all sentient live, and Gravemind is sentient. But then Gravemind does break the established rules anyway, so you could be right.
newduke
newduke
#5   Posted 5 years ago
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In reply to newduke, #4:

life, not 'live'
Drizzle
Drizzle
#6   Posted 5 years ago
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In reply to newduke, #5:

Yes...your right...he always did look Floodish. Hmmm...This will probably be revealed in the 3rd game cuz Chief's gonna have to haul his ass back to that Covenant Ship and get Cortana. But how did Gravemind get on the ship in the end...??? Still, I bet he is going to be a boss enemy in H3!
chelldwar
chelldwar
#7   Posted 5 years ago
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The Gravemind is, after some reading, apperantly an outlet for all the intellegence the flood has aquired in it's lifetime. This means that "he" is not sentient life, but all the flood carry around the intellegence, and he uses it. It's also assumed that the "keyes-flood" in halo 1 is something similar, if you look at Regret at the scene where the Chief and the Arbiter's talk with the gravemind, you see that regret had something similar happen to him as what happened to Keyes.

newduke
newduke
#8   Posted 5 years ago
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In reply to chelldwar, #7:

Is that a theory or from the story? I don't remember it from the books or any other Bungie guided source.

Am not discounting it though, just would like to know where you heard it.
newduke
newduke
#9   Posted 5 years ago
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In reply to newduke, #8:

And even if Gravemind is just an outlet for this information would that not mean that is aware of it? Because it shows in Halo2 clear indications of motivation and is definately self-aware (as was infected Keyes), and therefore must be sentient. I just checked sentient in the dictionary and that's exactly what it said the word means.
newduke
newduke
#10   Posted 5 years ago
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In reply to newduke, #9:

Sorry, I should have given an example. Keyes says "Chief... don't be a fool". He is clearly thinking by himself in wanting to save the Chief.
Godley
Godley
#11   Posted 5 years ago
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In reply to newduke, #10:

That in my belief wasnt really a keyes flood, i felt it was an intel gathering flood that would then turn the body into a flood, but thats my belief.
Eversosleepy
Eversosleepy
#12   Posted 5 years ago
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Hmm, I think that the Forerunners some way or another created the Flood and soon realized their mistake and created the Halo rings as a weapon of last resort to eliminate the flood. *shrugs*
SniperChief
SniperChief
#13   Posted 5 years ago
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The idea that the Gravemind contains all the knowledge of infected creatures makes sense, and it explains how the human flood can drive wraiths and the elite flood can drive scorpions. The gravemind might have been brought onto The covenant ship by the... umm whatever the ship your on with Keyes daughter... Inamber clad, when it crashes on the ship, its big enough.
Beta
Beta
#14   Posted 5 years ago
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It's all in the books fellas. Check out Halo: The Flood and the Art of Halo 2. Gravemind is to the flood as a queen ant is to an anthill. He's made up of many, many corpses. And assuming he's an old bastard, "I've listned through rock and steel and time," then he's made up of Forerunner corpses to boot. No way does something with an overmind quality presence evolve in less than an hour. (I'm referring to when the Covenant and UNSC first land. not enough time for Gravemind to be "built" off of their bodies." And the flood on the Halo's are in stasis. So they did work for the galaxy, but the Covenant are goin' around waking everything up. I guess Gravemind doesn't really have a "life span" because he wasn't in stasis, and he sounds like a wise bastard. He probably knows about as much as 2401 or 343, but he'll probably spill more information then those two.
ben1
ben1
#15   Posted 4 years ago
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Someone mentioned how old he is, and doubted the effectiveness of Halo installations. Let me just point out that 343 GS said he had lived on Halo (Installation 04 or Alpha Halo if you wish) for 100,000 some-odd local years. I dont know how long a Threshold year is to an Earth year, but still the halo rings were activated a LONG time ago, plenty of time anyway for Gravemind to grow into what he/she/it is now.


Anyone think Cortana and Gravemind will come to some sort of understanding in their talks?
sigma419
sigma419
#16   Posted 4 years ago
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It seems like they're already working together. I personally think Cortana went rampant.
lilshorty64
lilshorty64
Herro
#17   Posted 4 years ago
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i hate the flood

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sigma419
sigma419
#18   Posted 4 years ago
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Too bad the Forerunner couldn't take the next step and just make a flood killer rather than a sentient-killer...
lordodeath
lordodeath
#19   Posted 4 years ago
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In reply to Drizzle, #1:

Gravemind is "Flood" and in my opinion the king or leader.
Ghost420
Ghost420
#20   Posted 4 years ago
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Flood are gay
ben1
ben1
#21   Posted 4 years ago
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that was completely random and I just dont know what to say to that........... I just felt someone should respond to it.


We've established by now that Gravemind is the leader-Flood, so new people... read previous posts before cluttering the thread by repeating what others have said. I think the theory that Gravemind is a large bunch of Flood-corpses (not corpses OF Flood, but....you know....the Flood themselves) holds a lot of weight (is that a real phrase?) especially given his amazing intelligence.
Oyster
Oyster
#22   Posted 4 years ago
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My friends and I renamed Gravemind to Dr. Suess because he's a squishy guy who rhymes a lot...never liked Gravemind, much, anyhoo...
d4rkn1ghtm4r
d4rkn1ghtm4r
#23   Posted 4 years ago
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wasn't all the flood on the rings preserved tho?
ben1
ben1
#24   Posted 4 years ago
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ok look. Halo kills sentient things, not Flood themselves. The starving Flood were all put in a kind of stasis. Only the Infection forms survived, because the host bodies died of starvation (the Flood dont feed their host bodies). Then the Covenant came and reawakened them. The point of this recap is to illustrate that the Flood didn't die as a result of Halo.... they were only weakened.
Sarge87
Sarge87
#25   Posted 4 years ago
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Most people think/assume Gravemind is a Flood of somekind. So i dunno if thats what bungie intented but...thats what they got
rockstar13
rockstar13
#26   Posted 4 years ago
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if the halos kill all sentient life why are the covenant still there, should they have been killed off as well???
procaboose
procaboose
#27   Posted 4 years ago
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As mentioned by Cortana in Halo 1, when Halo is activated it DOES kill all sentient life, BUT some life does exist, but they are too small to sustain the flood, and over time, they may have evolved into what we have today.

Just a theory though.
ForTheLord
ForTheLord
#28   Posted 4 years ago
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When I played Halo 2 I also thought Gravemind was the flood leader of some sort. I always figured that because of the fact that he looks and sounds "floodish" and that he gets MC and the Arbiter to go find the index. If Halo got activated, that would of been bad for him, cause all sentinent life would be eradicated on a galatic scale. No life forms means no more suitable organisms to infect.
zorton213
zorton213
HGN_Paul1
#29   Posted 4 years ago
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I don't think the rings affect the flood because Cortana said "This ring doesn't kill flood, it kills their food." So if the gravemind is a flood he wouldn't have been effectedby the rings being turned on.
RvB_Todd
RvB_Todd
#30   Posted 4 years ago
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The Gravemind is just a huge collective of Flood. Pretty much, he's just a bunch of dead creatures piled together. He's the Flood's "Concious", so to speak. And he's f#@%ing huge. So yeah, there you go.
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